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This is part two of satsangs with Mohanji held in Mookambika in 2019 on Karma and other related topics<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: Please shed some light on lineage karma. How can we sort this out?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Well, lineage karma is: let me put it this way. Who owns your body? Who is the owner of your body? Do you take care of your parents so much? Who owns your body? Who is \u201cI\u201d? Who moves the body, and then what happens to the body? How long will you own it? After that, what happens? The body is still there for some more time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Audience: <\/strong>Wait for another birth or another desire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>So, there\u2019s continuity there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>Continuity is there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Is there?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>Yes<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>How?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>The soul remains, then \u201cI\u201d remains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Yes, \u201cI.\u201d There\u2019s continuity, but the body doesn\u2019t have continuity. That\u2019s why my question. Who owns the body? Elements are conglomerated to create the body. But who actually owns it? Soul? No. How does lineage own it? The lineage owns the body.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>Since the body is required for the lineage to move on, if there\u2019s no body, how would the lineage move ahead?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lineage Karma<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Lineage owns the body. Give me a direct answer. This is interesting, right? Because this is one of the fundamentals in karma. If you understand this, you understand karma better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>The physical body is impermanent. So, I guess there\u2019s not really any ownership. It\u2019s for that particular time. It\u2019s just an embodiment of the soul, and when that period is over\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>That\u2019s what he said. Soul occupies it, uses it, and moves on to another body.  That\u2019s absolutely true. But I\u2019m asking the question \u2013 the body is not continuous. That means another body is taken by the soul. So, who owns that body while it\u2019s on?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, where has it taken from? It doesn\u2019t happen like that right? You had parents, and they had parents. So, that\u2019s my question. Isn\u2019t that lineage? Part of lineage? Leasing – that part I understood. It\u2019s leased to a karmic composition. That\u2019s okay. But then, who does the body belong to? Consciousness?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience:<\/strong> The body belongs to the Lord. He only blessed us with a body so that we can realise Him in our own kaal (time) on dharti (earth).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Anybody has a proper answer \u2013 direct answer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Audience: <\/strong>Ancestors<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Mohanji: <\/strong>That\u2019s why I am saying lineage. You know, when the sperm meets the egg, i.e., before your body is formed, there are a set of structural pranas<\/strong> entering the system.  Understand this clearly. When the sperm meets the egg and gets fertilised, which will create a body eventually, at that point in time, there are a set of structural pranas; they say about five, but I don\u2019t count the number. Five structural pranas enter the system.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

One major structural prana is called Dhananjaya. Dhananjaya prana enters your system before your body is formed and exits your system when full decomposition happens.<\/strong> That is about 16, 18, or 20 days after your death. Dhananjaya prana is a direct link to your lineage.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The soul enters your system only when there\u2019s a vessel to work on. The soul, along with the constitution, duration, with its vasanas \u2013 inclinations, desires, destiny – Prarabdha, all this together enters your system only when it\u2019s ready for action when you have a vessel. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prarabhda Karma<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

In other words, when a plot of land is bought, you can\u2019t stay there without a house. That plot belongs to somebody. It belongs to the lineage. Then a house is built on the plot. That house belongs to the lineage that\u2019s the body. Then a tenant comes and takes over, paying rent. Paying rent is what? Rent here is the lineage karma that enters your system along with your personal karma, which is Prarabdha<\/strong> or unfulfilled desires<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Your unfulfilled desires, plus the unfulfilled desires of the generations, enters your system \u2013 each person. This mix together is what you experience in life.<\/strong> So, the house belongs to the owner. The land belongs to the owner. The tenant occupies it at some time. Well, the person leases the house from some time till some time. It can exercise only during that time.  The moment it leaves the body, the house again goes back to the lineage<\/a>. So, the real owner of our body is the lineage. We belong to the lineage.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is why it was well defined that a child should take care of the parents. Parents should take care of their parents and children. Putra (children) dharma, Pitra (parents) dharma, all these are defined, connected to the alignment of the lineage. Is this clear? Do you have clarity?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, when does Dhananjaya leave you? Only when the body is fully decomposed and clear that this body can\u2019t be used again.<\/strong> So, the lineage continues, and all the good and bad things that are done within the family have a root in our life also<\/strong>. It\u2019s not necessarily all in one person but distributed over many. So, we all have something to do with everything that our family has done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selfless service<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Why does every religion, every path talk about helping the helpless, feeding the poor, serve the hungry, feed the hungry? We always say that. What happens in that? This is all helping the lineage karma more than your personal karma because it dilutes the whole path. In case you\u2019ve done great things in a lifetime, you can actually see that reflected in your children.<\/strong> You\u2019ve done great work, so many good things in life. The next generation and the generations to come will start becoming prosperous because they are not inheriting so much weight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Imagine we\u2019ve had destructive people in our family, and they\u2019ve done enough damage because some people have power but don\u2019t have maturity. So, they don\u2019t know how to use the power. They use power negatively. When they use power negatively, it affects not only them but also the next generations. That\u2019s why Meerabai talks about abusing the Guru etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you abuse or talk badly about a Master, it not only affects you, but it affects your own coming generations, also you for about 80,000 lifetimes.<\/strong> That deep it goes. Overall all these things are connected to lineage karma. So, lineage karma is a very, very important thing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

How do you tackle lineage karma? One of the Homas we are doing now also pertains to lineage, to cleanse the path. How do you tackle this on a daily basis? Very simple words: be good; do good.Through good actions, thoughts, words, automatically you\u2019ll experience lightness in the whole structure. Through selflessness, you can actually reduce your weight, just by being selfless.<\/strong> Reduce your weight. By being more selfish, greedy, aggressive, accumulation-oriented, you add more weight because you can own nothing on earth. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Whatever you came with, that you take. What did you come with? Only the unfulfilled desires. If they are completed now, it\u2019s well and good. If you didn\u2019t complete them, you\u2019d have to come back again to complete them. You didn\u2019t bring even a penny when you came, so you take not even a penny from here – nothing you take.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This must be very clear. Lineage has leased the body to this particular constitution called soul connected to the Prarabdha karma – destiny path, and for how long it takes, no problem.<\/strong> You can take for so many years – for as much as you need the body. That\u2019s how much you can keep the body. Then, once that set of desires is completed, you can\u2019t lease it further. Exercising this thing on every species, we totally alienate ourselves, segregate ourselves; we separate ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, what has come to humankind? Overpopulation and religious concepts, where God is outside of us, and we have to find a God outside of us, and a God looking at you and deciding whether you\u2019re a good or bad boy. All these things are extensions of imagination. While the God particle is sitting inside us, that\u2019s the element that\u2019s inherent in every creation. Instead of finding it, it\u2019s easier to use the senses and go outside. That\u2019s the easy method. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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God Particle<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

If I tell you that you bring all your senses inside, to bring your mind, intellect, and ego inside and find God within, you wouldn\u2019t be interested. But that\u2019s the truth. We like to go to different Gurus, different programmes, different things in search of the permanent. Do you get the permanent there? Why don\u2019t you get the permanent? Because this is a waking state exercise. When you\u2019re awake, you have a world outside. When you sleep, you don\u2019t have that world outside.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you sleep, you are totally detached from that world outside. You only have a world inside, but that\u2019s not interesting for us. When we say, meditate, connect to ourselves, connect to the inner core, this is all good but not easy because we are externally oriented – spontaneously external, outside.<\/strong> It\u2019s not interesting. Then what do we do?  We just stay outside.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then there are a lot of practices for it. This course, another course, third course, fourth course, so that people are happy to do courses and believe they are spiritual. Course after course – amazing. \u201cI\u2019ve done 15 courses, so I must be great.\u201d But nothing has happened on the vibratory level. This is something which we must understand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Path of liberation<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

In the path of Shiva, the path of liberation, there\u2019s no-nonsense, no beating around the bush. You\u2019ve to find yourself in this life. You must find yourself in this life, which you can only find if you look inside.<\/strong> You cannot find yourself unless in the mirror if you look outside. You can only find your own image, but not you if you look outside. All the things that are outside of you are all temporary because only when you wake up, you have them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even relationships, relations, places, possessions, positions, everything \u2013 you\u2019ve them only when you are awake.<\/strong> Even when you are awake, how much of that do you see? How much of that do you accept? How much of that gives you happiness? It\u2019s all question marks. There\u2019s no guarantee. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, it\u2019s important to understand that happiness is an inside story that\u2019s rooted in acceptance. Acceptance gives you happiness if you have a stable level of acceptance of yourself, not of other beings. I\u2019m not talking about some things which you experience when you\u2019re awake, in your waking state. I\u2019m talking about accepting yourself as you are all the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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From there, you find that in the search to find happiness, there\u2019s no need to go outside. There\u2019s nothing outside to find. Then you start settling inside. That\u2019s the only settling possible – real settling down. Where do you settle down? You can talk about any country to settle down, but there you keep the body for some time, that\u2019s all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the time of death, does it matter which country you are in? It doesn\u2019t matter. Nothing matters at the time of death. So, settling down has to be inside. Then, the advantage is it gives you immortality.<\/strong> You aren\u2019t dying. That\u2019s a better idea, right? You aren\u2019t dying. Otherwise, you are dying every day. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

You miss something, don\u2019t have something, you feel that you should have, but you don\u2019t have, and denial, deprivation, all these things kill you every day. Instead, you are happy with yourself, accepting yourself, exploring your inside, and start looking at every aspect of yourself. Finally, you\u2019ll find yourself and you settle down.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

How do you feel? What\u2019s your opinion Mamu? (Some incoherent audio\u2026) Then it must be true. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is something that we must digest and understand. Lifetimes get wasted this way.  Searching, searching, searching, and not finding. Anger, hatred, jealousy \u2013 all these emotions. So many problems and conflicts, and then lifetimes get wasted. We miss lifetimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

When we approach a Master or God for something, for a purpose, we don\u2019t connect to the person. You are actually connecting conditionally. When you conditionally connect, you only see differences. You like it if you get it; you don\u2019t like it if you don\u2019t get it. Instead, if you connect to the consciousness, one connection is enough for the sake of alignment. You\u2019ll be aligned, and you\u2019ll be stable. You\u2019ll be powerful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(Here is the continuation of the satsang after a break)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji:<\/strong> Good evening. I\u2019ll take your questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Greenwood:<\/strong> We have a couple of questions. The first question relating to before is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: How can we protect ourselves in 5G network environment?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji : <\/strong>The best way to protect ourselves is not to have 5G, but it also depends on the governments, the various decision-making bodies. One thing is that we have, in fact, destroyed the earth so much with our intelligence already. The ecosystem is totally destroyed.  So many things are affected, which is visible in our daily lives. Most psychosomatic diseases are caused by radiation of some kind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, it\u2019s not that anybody is immune. All the birds, animals, fishes, people – we are all affected by one species called the human species. <\/strong>Understand this clearly, so that you will get a lot of answers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There are numerous places where life can exist, not just on earth. The earth is a very small space, very small. There are so many spaces in the world where life happens. Life can exist not necessarily in the format which earth has, like a physical format where elements are conglomerated, the matter is created, the matter is maintained with energy induced. This is our life.  This is not the only way life can exist, but it is also one of the ways where life can exist.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We call the creator – Brahma.<\/strong> Brahma is not just a creator. He\u2019s not getting down and creating. He has many beings. Imagine that Brahma is a human being for the sake of understanding. Actually, Brahma is a state of consciousness<\/a><\/strong>. There are numerous people, his children, who can be creators, like Agastya.  <\/strong>The father of Agastya<\/strong> is Brahma<\/strong>.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There are so many beings. Father is Brahma. So, basically, they all have the power of creation.  They can create. The creation is always based on not disturbing the environment of creation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Destroying or disturbing the environment of creation is not acceptable. Basically, that means you don\u2019t cut the branch you are sitting on. For that, you need good awareness \u2013 a good level of awareness. You need a level of awareness where you\u2019ll leave the space undisturbed while you are creating. There are many so-called Prajapatis and people who have the power to create.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Here there are two aspects to it. One is creating a mould \u2013 a particular form or format<\/strong>.  Second is the ability to infuse energy in such a format so that it is called alive<\/strong>. You make it alive, just like we do Pranapathistha<\/strong> to an idol (inviting a deity to reside in the idol). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Pranapathistha does not make an idol work in the format which it can work in a human or an animal format or any other species.  So, they found earth as a beautiful platform for creation. It\u2019s almost like a good canvas for a painter. Earth is a very beautiful place for creation where the matter and the elements are almost in equilibrium. Earth, water, fire, space – all these things are in a reasonably good equilibrium here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Various beings decided that we would create various things. That\u2019s why we see all these varieties. Numerous creations happen on this plane, and the auto mode is that they all have a survival instinct. They are all on a self-sustainable method. That\u2019s how these creations are. They can all exist by themselves. That\u2019s why when you look at nature, you can see that format at work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

There are numerous deer who need to eat grass all the time. Every day it needs to eat. Then some people created a carnivorous animal just to contain this species so that it doesn\u2019t exceed a certain limit. Like that, if you look, every creation has a hierarchical kind of structure. That\u2019s all within the framework of nature. That means that the canvas is never disturbed, and they all operate on instinct. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The basic instinct is the survival instinct. Its major expression is food and sexuality. This is all fine. Every species has it, and they operate in that mode – beautiful, perfect. Each being sustains the other, or there\u2019s a cycle of sustenance – a cycle of their format that moves on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Awareness<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Then came the human species. The human species has one capacity – the awareness aspect<\/strong>.  For all other species, the awareness aspect is connected to the survival instinct. They are integrated into survival instinct. But, for humans, awareness is segregated. It can take you to dimensions of happiness. This means happiness for instinct is available to materials for survival. That\u2019s a habit. But for humans, happiness is not just the availability of materials for survival. They need much more. They started exploring various dimensions of basic instinct itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Survival Instinct<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

The basic instinct is a survival instinct which is food. We have many, many varieties of possibilities of food. This is one example. This means human beings started using intelligence and imagination more than instinct. We started using imagination and intelligence for our expression or experience of the earth much more than instinct. Unfortunately, we also started considering instinct as something inferior, which you can\u2019t avoid. Then what do you do? You hide. Hiding, suppression means suffering – one fundamental mistake.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Secondly, we decided that when we start using imagination and intelligence, we have the supremacy. Supremacy means, by using intelligence and imagination, we can rule over species, rule over the earth. Then we started having control over materials, possessions, positions – so many different controls. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then the de-railing started. We lost touch with ourselves. We were in an imaginary world and decided that we needed a lot of things for our existence, our survival. We need a lot of materials, possessions, and positions for our existence. We also started believing that we have the right over other species, which is not true.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Earth is the same for every species. We don\u2019t have special rights. But, because we have intelligence and imagination, we have the ability to cut ourselves off from the world. And then we place ourselves in cubicles. We segregate ourselves, and then we start a connection to our own physical form. That happens when you reach a certain level. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, why I am giving this example now is that some people who are absentminded will decide that they are realised. They say that this is okay because I am self-realised; I don\u2019t have much consciousness of the body. \u201cEasy way out.\u201d So, this is the point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: When you were just talking about the lineage karma, like for a girl who gets married and goes to another family, so how does that work? Does she carry the lineage for both the families? Or is it that she leaves the lineage of the family where she\u2019s born and she carries the burden of the family that she\u2019s married into.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: Fundamentally, your own lineage is responsible for your life till the end.<\/strong>  Marriage is something that happens in the middle. But karmically, we say that the physical is mixing. When you marry somebody, karmas get mixed. So, your ownership shifts. It\u2019s almost like selling a house. But it doesn\u2019t mean that where you came from is affected. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

When you shift the house or sell the house, then ownership changes, then the other person is responsible. In a way, because marriage is a \u201cjoining together,\u201d the lineage karma is predominant where you joined into. That way, it happens, but you have to be responsible in a larger perspective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You are born, so this means that you have to take care of your mother and father if they need your help. It isn\u2019t that I married somebody else so now I don\u2019t like to take care of you.  That\u2019s not a good idea. The best way and this has been said in many, many scriptures, is that God comes to you when you look after your family well.<\/em><\/strong>You take care of your parents well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Story of Pandharpur – so when you take care of your parents very well, the Lord comes to see you. This is told so much because it is a responsibility.When you take care of your parents very well, the whole lineage is happy.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, Pratyaksha<\/strong> – what you have in front, that\u2019s your parents. Then it is your children. So, look after them. This doesn\u2019t mean that you pamper your children and handicap them. They become dependent on you and don\u2019t know what to you. That\u2019s not what I mean. You have to be very practical and stable and give them power and energy, stability. That\u2019s exactly what it is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: This is related to the karmic rebirth that we were discussing. As we discussed, you said that once we are content with the desires that we have, we won\u2019t have rebirth. Then again, there\u2019s karma with what we do. There are good and bad actions. So for both of them, we get some kind of reward or something. We need to be in life again. So, if someone does good, they have to be born anyways. What is the desire and karma which we need to get away from so that we don\u2019t have to take a rebirth?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>You are absolutely right. Good actions will bring you good results, and you have to experience them also. Bad actions will give you bad results, and you have to experience. So, this keeps going. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What is Lord Krishna talking about it in Bhagwad Gita? He says that \u201cif you do not have ownership of action, and if you just perform it as a duty and not be interested or attached to the results of the action, you do not have its karma.<\/strong>\u201d When you do the right action, you do it with complete detachment – surrender. I am only performing it within my capacity, within my premises. This means, in my space and time, and I leave it to you. It doesn\u2019t matter whatever the results are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ownership<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Karma is always connected to the ownership of action.<\/strong> \u201cIf you do not have ownership of action – I own it, me and my causes karma. Me and my\u201d. But, if \u201cme and my\u201d are absent, then the karmic binding is also absent. So, Masters, after liberation, after getting enlightenment, or after attaining high levels of Samadhi, will still perform. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

But they don\u2019t have an attachment to action. They don\u2019t have an agenda or a plan. So how do they work? They work as things come. They do what they have to do as things flow. They don\u2019t do anything to canvass or guide or mislead or do anything for their purpose. In that bargain, there\u2019s no ownership. This is the point.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Ownership is something that we need to always remember. How much more ownership you have, that much more you are prone to karmic baggage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bhavani, how\u2019s your jet lag? You know, I came from Europe on 25th<\/sup>. I was in Bangalore the night of the 25th<\/sup> and the 26th<\/sup>. But there were a lot of people, so there was no rest. I went to Jammu on the morning of the 27th<\/sup>. I returned on the 28th<\/sup> from Jammu to Bangalore, took a car, went to Thiruvannamalai. I reached Thiruvannamalai at 4 am in the morning. I then went and registered a property and immediately went to Chennai, flew to Delhi, reached Delhi at 3 am in the morning. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There was a continuous activity for a tour. Then I flew to Jammu and back to Goa. The next day I went to some places in Goa and came back the same night. The next day I flew to Mumbai and went directly to Shirdi. \u201cI have to tell you this because it\u2019ll solve your jet lag.\u201d<\/strong> I spent two nights in Shirdi, and that night we were in Dwarkamai.<\/strong> We didn\u2019t sleep. The next day I had darshan and returned to Mumbai. The next day I flew back to Jammu, then I came to Mumbai, and then I came here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jet lag is something that, if you decide to entertain, will stay with you. If you decide that you have better things to do, then it won\u2019t be with you. Now you see how much jet lag you have. This is something that the mind is asking you. I never ever had the luxury of jet lag.  You know how many times I come to America. I fly to one place; the next day there\u2019s a programme. These people don\u2019t give me the luxury of relaxation. The next day is a programme; something is going on each time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I was in Europe for two months – eight countries. There were many, many programs back to back. I\u2019m not complaining, but what I am saying is that we have a duration of existence from birth till death. I believe that we have no time for these kinds of things. How much time do we spend sleeping and being a slave to the mind thinking, \u201cOh, I am not well today, I am worried.\u201d Instead, if you decide to get up and run, then life will run with you.<\/strong> I think this is worth it. I think it\u2019s gone now. This is my cure for jet lag. It\u2019s the truth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: Mohanji, I remember you telling me years ago that I\u2019ve come with tons of Prarabdha karma, which at that point in time was not very motivating for me. What I wanted to ask you was, through my years with you and you mentioned earlier, I know you told me this personally to try and fulfil my desires consciously and with awareness whenever I get the opportunity so that it doesn\u2019t bother me again. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019ve also noticed simultaneously that you\u2019ve gifted me with a certain level, I would say, of detachment (for want of a better word). But I don\u2019t feel the need to exercise, let\u2019s say an action to fulfil that desire.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>The most important thing is spontaneity. When you are pressured for an action, it\u2019s definitely not a good idea. Pressure also has resistance. Pressure is because of resistance. What\u2019s the right action? An action that\u2019s effortless – spontaneous action, which makes you feel bright and light. That\u2019s the right action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Be natural<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

When there\u2019s pressure, even if I say to you to do this Sadhana, if it\u2019s not suitable to you, if you are struggling with it, it\u2019s not yours. So, be spontaneous. Be natural, and that\u2019s it. I never judge you in life, right? I took you as you are. Why? There\u2019s no right for me to judge another. Everybody is a karmic being. All are karmic beings.They all go through their set of karma. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Number one:  It\u2019s not our job to judge another.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Number two: As long as you have a driving force as karma or inclination, let\u2019s say Vasana \u2013 inclination, that\u2019s what you are.<\/strong> We are a bundle of inclinations, tendencies, and we cannot change them. That\u2019s it. We are driven by tendencies and inclinations. We operate only as per our inclinations. Likes and dislikes are part of it. So, we operate that way. Be spontaneous and keep moving. Please understand that nowhere can you be stagnated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Stagnation means denial of something.<\/strong> It means you are stopping there because of whatever reasons, mostly analysis. Then that action gets postponed for another time. That means it\u2019s asking for its fulfilment. So, what\u2019s best? Go through the process with awareness, that\u2019s all. Finish – just flow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: Is it possible for a human being not to do any karma to avoid its results so that I need not take a rebirth? Is it possible?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Karma itself is the cause of rebirth. This body is because of unfulfilled desires. In general terms, I am saying this just for the sake of understanding. There are so many things which you wanted to experience with this body, so you took birth. Imagine you do not go ahead with it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Due to whatever reason, you suppress it, and you don\u2019t proceed with its completion. Imagine if it happened like that. What does that mean? That means you\u2019ve completely wasted this life, and you are asking for repetition. That\u2019s the pattern that Duggal was talking about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Acceptance<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

When you do the healings for Mai Tri etc., you can see patterns repeated again and again.  That\u2019s because each time, there\u2019s no full acceptance<\/a>. Living life with acceptance is the remedy. Whatever is happening at a given point in time to a given person is based on karma. It\u2019s based on unfulfilled desires. It\u2019s something which is not fulfilled at another time.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, you can\u2019t postpone it and say that it\u2019s done now. You can\u2019t suppress it and decide it\u2019ll not come back again. So, everything is a flow. You\u2019ve to accept and appreciate. Okay, this is the situation, and this is how it is. Let me handle it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The more resistance there is, the more postponement it carries. If you resist something, it\u2019s shifted to another time. If you accept it, it gets finished at that time.<\/strong> So, when you practice acceptance for every situation, good or bad, it goes away. But the more you resist, the more the memory stays, the deeper the impression. Most of our memories are connected to something which we did not approve of. Correct? Sometimes we don\u2019t even think about what we have approved. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Imagine that somebody insulted you. You\u2019ll remember that. \u201cOh, that man insulted me at this time.\u201d That\u2019ll be staying in mind. If somebody said that you are a great personality and I really love you, that you may forget. That\u2019s okay. I deserve appreciation, but we also do not deserve criticism. Whenever there\u2019s criticism, we tend to reject it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We tend to reject the man who criticised us.<\/strong> Whatever the reason for that, it\u2019s a different story. This is exactly how our constitution works. It\u2019s important to accept everything. What I normally do when people appreciate me is, \u201cyou are amazing.\u201d I don\u2019t get carried away. They say you are amazing; you are an elephant; God; whatever. I consider them all as flowers and put them at the feet of the tradition. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some people criticise me. \u201cYou are a devil. You are not good. Ever since I met you, my life has been miserable.\u201d I take that also as flowers and put it at the feet of the tradition so that I don\u2019t own anything. Whether it\u2019s praise or criticism, both are the same. You can\u2019t expect that everybody will like you. Every situation will be likeable; we cannot expect that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Expectations<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

There\u2019ll be good and bad. There\u2019ll be ups and downs. What we have to do is, okay, this is what it is, accept it and move on. Expectation is a very big problem. Most of the time, most of the disappointments are caused by expectations.When you\u2019ve fewer expectations, you also have fewer disappointments.<\/strong> When you have fewer disappointments, you\u2019ve lesser anger and hatred.You have lesser revenge, a mind for revenge. When you have a lot of expectations, there\u2019ll be a lot of disappointments which corresponds to anger, hatred, jealousy, all those things. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The root cause of most of our suffering is expectations.<\/strong> As Ramana Maharshi said, he had cancer. He said, \u201cI have pain because I have cancer. I have a body. I am experiencing pain, but I have no suffering because I am not resisting it.\u201d Only when you resist something, you suffer. If you\u2019re not resisting, can you suffer? Resistance always gives pressure, suffering because we are constantly resisting so many things in life. In the bargain, we end up suffering too much. You know, we have problems with people, situations, materials, environment. So many different things, isn\u2019t it? So, this is exactly how life works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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(Mohanji makes a reference to a story of a donkey and asks the audience if they read it. He then requests someone from the audience to read it out loud.)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

A story read by a member of the audience:<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

A donkey was tied to a tree. A demon came and untied it. The donkey ran into the fields and destroyed the crops.The farmer\u2019s wife saw this and shot the donkey dead. The donkey\u2019s owner was upset, so he shot the farmer\u2019s wife. The farmer came back to see his wife dead. He went and shot the donkey\u2019s owner.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then the wife of the owner of the donkey asked her sons to go and burn the house of the farmer. The boys went late in the evening and carried out their mother\u2019s orders happily, assuming that the farmer too would have been burnt with the house. Sadly, for them, it wasn\u2019t that. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, the farmer came back and shot the wife and the two sons of the owner of the donkey.  Remorseful, the farmer asks the demon, \u201cWhy did all this have to happen?\u201d So, the demon says, \u201cI did nothing. I only released the donkey, but all of you reacted, overreacted, and released the inner devil.\u201d Did you get it? So the devil doesn\u2019t do anything but wake up by triggering the ego in you that turns into evil intent and goes harming others. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, the next time before replying, responding, reporting, rebuking, or avenging revenge, stop and think; be careful. Many a time, what the devil does is it just releases the donkey within us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>How was that?This is not mine.Somebody sent it to me, and I really liked it. So, I sent it to Kamath. I can\u2019t remember it by heart. Do you want to read the whole thing again? We can read it again. It\u2019s a good story. (Mohanji then asks Preeti to stand up and explain so that everybody understands it. Preeti then explains the story mentioned above).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This story is very interesting and important. I\u2019ve experienced that many times. I think some of these people who walked with me know. Some people who walked with me moved with me. They rose with me and evolved with me. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Suddenly somebody would say something; then they would depart for apparently no reason. <\/strong>Absolutely no reason, but somebody said something. They chose to listen to the person, not their own experience. This is the same story. You know, people forget their own experience, and they decide to detach. I\u2019ve experienced this many times. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, what can you do there? You fill up when they are available, and then you don\u2019t have to do anything when they leave. That\u2019s all; nothing else you can do. But this is how the mind works. It catches onto something negative. It marries it, and then it completely discards its own experience. You know, we have a choice to respond and not react<\/strong>. But, we choose to react. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Response means intellect is at work.  React means ego is at work.<\/strong> So, you have a choice in any given situation to stay with your intellect. If intellect is in charge, you\u2019ll never be experiencing regrets. If the ego is in charge, you\u2019ll have a stream of regrets, lots of regrets. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If intellect is in charge, you\u2019ll not have regrets because intellect will say, \u201crespond.\u201d There\u2019s no need to shout. There\u2019s no need to react. You are peaceful. So, when you don\u2019t react and only respond in life, it means you are watching it. You are expressing, responding. You\u2019re not emotional about something. Emotion is again like glue; it sticks. If somebody abuses you, you\u2019ll remember. If somebody praises you, you may not remember.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, if intellect is in charge, in life, you\u2019ll have no regrets. If the ego is in charge in your life, it\u2019ll be regret after regret, then guilt, and various things. A kind of rebelliousness is driven by this ego. \u201cHey, you are doing something great; destroy that.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Everything has a price to pay.  Nothing is free. Sometimes the price is very high. It\u2019s like gambling. You borrowed money and gambled. Then you\u2019ve to pay back the borrowed money plus the loss that happened in the gambling. It\u2019s like, okay, tomorrow I might win. You won\u2019t because you are operating from the level of the ego. When you operate from the level of the ego, victory is very difficult.<\/strong> In the feast of the ego, everyone goes home hungry.<\/strong> Simple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Question: Mohanji, this is about Masters. You mentioned Masters are basically the light, and the light goes to the darkness. So, my question is: Sometimes in life, you do have several Masters, and without any disrespect, sometimes you reach a point of stagnancy where you are not really able to go inward. Then there comes another light that beckons you. It\u2019s no disrespect, but it could be that you found another Master. Maybe that light is beckoning you to do something further. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The question is: Is it okay? People say you have too many Masters. Sometimes you go from Master to Master, but I have that thing that something is beckoning you. You are looking for something bigger which you aren\u2019t finding.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: <\/strong>Understood. I\u2019ll answer that. Usually, this is a pattern. A pattern where you are expecting something to come from outside, but this is a waking state exercise. Understand that you have an equal dream state and a deep sleep state where none of these things have validity. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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During the waking state, we are in a movement of conquest or connecting on a certain level. So, we are moving towards something, connecting with something, expecting something. Those expectations, even in spiritual practice, sometimes certain expectations don\u2019t give results immediately. It may take time. This is one aspect – immediate results are not possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The second aspect is we are evolving. With each lifetime, we are evolving. Patterns are continuing. Patterns of dependency on the outside world are also continuing. That\u2019s why we see various Masters. Otherwise, there are no various Masters. There\u2019s only one Master, and that Master sits within you. He is already awakened. So, the maximum any teacher or any Master can tell you is \u201cTat tvam asi.\u201d You are that. Whatever you are looking for is you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I always say this, \u201cYou can have a million questions, but I\u2019ll give you the answer now.\u201d  YOU.<\/strong> You can have any number of questions; the answer is already ready. YOU<\/strong>. Then we go to various places, people, practices imagining that this will help. It\u2019ll help, provided each step is one more step inside. It\u2019ll help. Everything will help provided every step is walking inside to the level where \u2013 how do you know the result? Silence from thought is called Samadhi<\/a>. That means less TPS, which his thoughts per second.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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When you are walking inside, each step is entering into more and more silence, and then the external world becomes insignificant. Then you know you are progressing. Otherwise, these Masters are only when you are awake, and you are able to connect with your mind, intellect, ego, or senses, or what you see. That may or may not be good for you. We don\u2019t know because it\u2019s all difficult to say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I would say that nothing is by accident; everything has a reason. There must have been a connection. Again, that connection got repeated. Don\u2019t look at it as good or bad. It\u2019s neither good nor bad. So, this is exactly the point. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What you need to understand is that whether there was a Master or not at any given point in time, you existed. You existed in your full capacity always, whether the mind appreciated it or not. The mind may not have appreciated it, but you\u2019ve existed in your whole capacity. This means that whatever there is, whatever is required to find yourself, is already there. Nobody can take it away. Nobody can diminish you nor raise you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now, what does the Master do? Like a mirror, show yourself to you and say this is you or as a road sign.<\/strong> I used to go to the Himalayas very often in the early 2000s, and I used to feel good. When I had a holiday, I was almost proud that I was going to the Himalayas. The pride means I thought that I was doing something great. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

But later on, I realised that I was getting nothing from it – nothing. When I came back and joined my work, I was back to square one. So, what was this exercise all about? I didn\u2019t realise it initially and had to go through the process. You have to kiss a lot of frogs before you can actually find the prince.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

You have to go through certain processes. Then, I realised these trips were an ego exercise. Of course, the intention was pure. There\u2019s no question of intention. You are not after anything selfish. You have a deep urge to find yourself. That\u2019s okay. But, is this exercise helping me find myself or settling for an artificial feeling of comfort? The answer was – it was an artificial feeling of happiness. This wasn\u2019t true because happiness which is not permanent, isn\u2019t yours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then I was sitting down and meditating. I had a three-bedroom villa. I had made one room as a cave. I was sitting there meditating. I realised that I didn\u2019t want to fake it anymore. It has to be real. It must be real. So, what is real? That\u2019s the time when I decided in the middle of all actions; there was a space of inaction because it\u2019s not easy. I didn\u2019t tell anybody what I was practicing. I was just connecting to myself and going into the core of every thought. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Thus, not getting attached to any thought. No ownership, no ego kind of state, and then deeper and deeper into layers of silence. Out of all this, meditations came. Whatever I have given to the world has all come out of these exercises. Kriya came all those things. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, this was happening, and at the same time, in those days, I met various saints and spiritual people. Many times, I only heard opinions that were impractical for me to practice in my life, so I discarded them. We must dare to discard something which we cannot use.<\/strong> There\u2019s no point in keeping it inside, and it becomes dirty. Let me throw it away later. Instead, don\u2019t even bring it home. If something isn\u2019t suitable for you, dare to discard it. This is better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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It went on like that. I settled down in silence, and then all these communions started. When you are in a certain frequency, you start connecting to people of those frequencies. People may not even understand you, recognise you, accept you. But, you start connecting to certain frequencies which are suitable for you. Thus, I started connecting. That\u2019s how I had communion with Babaji. I had communions with various Masters on various levels. The result is my literature. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I never studied anything. I never studied Smritis, Shrutis, Puranas, Vedas, Upanishads – nothing. All this I am talking about is from me – what I\u2019ve experienced and what comes through me. So, you have to stabilise in one platform for you to jump. That foothold should be there. That foothold and the best foothold is silence. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you find a Master who has attained that foothold, then don\u2019t leave. What else? Where\u2019ll you go? If you\u2019ve not found it, find yourself. This was what I did. I didn\u2019t go chasing any Guru because I wasn\u2019t sure. In fact, some of them really took me for a ride also. That also was beautiful. I appreciate that experience because I realised that it wasn\u2019t real. So, I have no regrets. Of course, some time was wasted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sometimes, some people try to bind you with fears. I discard fears right away. I believe in fearlessness. If you\u2019ve found yourself, you can\u2019t sit with fear. You can\u2019t have fears. Fears will not be able to come. Fear is darkness. You are light. So, you can\u2019t have fears. Fear and light cannot be together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Everything is good. I\u2019ve no regrets. I\u2019ve no disappointments in people. Another thing is that when you start operating at certain levels, you become bright. People start recognising you. That means connecting to you. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Some people will say to you that you look beautiful or you are radiant. We would like to be with you. Some of them are only there to create a nuisance, but you\u2019ve to handle them. For me, after establishing for many months, for many years in silence, going out into the world and speaking was extreme violence to my state, which I\u2019ve earned the hard way by practicing – a lot of practice, tons of it. Once you stabilise, you won\u2019t leave it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Then another truth happened. There\u2019s nothing you can own, even your silence. That\u2019s the truth. Even your silence isn\u2019t yours. There\u2019s nothing called okay, now it\u2019s fine. Then you go and speak, still being in silence. It\u2019s an interesting journey, and sooner or later you\u2019ll reach there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But understand this big business that means flexibility is the name of the game extreme flexibility, just like water. As the water flows, that\u2019s the way we flow. Nothing you can pre-plan; nothing you can bind yourself to, or you cannot determine that this is how I\u2019ll work. No way. As it flows, it flows.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That\u2019s why I said sometimes I become surprised when people come with expectations that with one touch, you reach heaven. Another thing is that sometimes people come with certain kinds of prejudices, concepts, and they want me to conform with them, which I cannot. These are individual opinions. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The world is only opinions. The world is filled with the opinions of people. It\u2019s up to us to buy them or not.<\/strong> Just like we go to the supermarket, we can\u2019t buy all the stuff sitting in there, right? We don\u2019t have to, and we can\u2019t because we\u2019ll only buy what we can use. The second is that we blame other people for our destiny. How can they be responsible? <\/p>\n\n\n\n

There are so many such unnecessary nuisances. We\u2019ve to put them all away, and then what you have on your table is basic, simple you. That\u2019s the only you.<\/em> When you marry that you \u2013 that person which you\u2019ve found within, you\u2019ve found everything. You\u2019ve found the microcosm and the macrocosm and the macrocosm in the microcosm. You\u2019ve found everything. This is exactly the story. Various Masters is an illusion. Fundamentally there are various forms, but you are the Master.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Don\u2019t look at me as a Guru or a Master. What am I when I\u2019m playing with Mila? I\u2019m not a Master; I\u2019m her father. When I\u2019m walking on the street or on the beach in my bermudas, what Guru? We are all the same. There are so many people out there. Everything is relative; all things are relative. You perform a role, and that role gives you a certain recognition, that\u2019s all. If you consistently perform a certain role, then you are identified based on that consistency. Isn\u2019t it? That\u2019s how we call Masters, etc. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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But, there are some people very insecure, whom I\u2019ve seen in the Himalayas also. They are very attached to their form, their garb. That\u2019s many times insecurity. Let\u2019s leave it, okay that\u2019s fine because that\u2019s their level of evolution which they probably wanted to experience or connect. We can\u2019t do anything. That\u2019s not our problem. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What we should do is accept ourselves one hundred percent. I believe that if I cannot accept my weaknesses, I\u2019m a hypocrite. We have weaknesses; why not? We should have weaknesses. We should have failures. Failures help us understand the truth. It\u2019s not only success that tells you the truth. Failures tell the truth better because<\/strong> they remind you very constantly, \u2018don\u2019t fall again.\u2019<\/strong> So, we can fail. We can be a failure. People can call us failures; it doesn\u2019t matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nobody can decide who we are because we are a unique creation. Nobody can own you or disown you. You are what you are. The point I am saying is that if you\u2019ve actually found yourself, you\u2019ve found all the Masters. Yogananda said this beautifully, \u2018If you consider me as your Guru, understand I am all Gurus. Look no further.\u2019<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Why did he say that? Because concentration isn’t the best if you\u2019re scattered. Nobody takes responsibility for you because you\u2019re going from one place to the other. You\u2019re carrying the cup everywhere. A cup has a capacity. Even if everybody has something to pour, they won\u2019t pour because there\u2019s no capacity.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Instead, you are standing in one line. Eventually, you\u2019ll get your cup full. This is the core of spirituality. Stay in one line, stay steady, and it\u2019s not about practices. It\u2019s about connection.<\/strong>  The highest is achieved through integration more than practices. Practices help alignment, discipline. But, what actually takes you higher? It\u2019s what you\u2019re connected to.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you\u2019re connected to supreme consciousness, you\u2019ll reach supreme consciousness. You experience that fully. If you\u2019re connected to a person, you\u2019ll be in that mode. So, what exactly are you connected to, that\u2019s what you become. That\u2019s why I\u2019m saying it\u2019s important to integrate consistently. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, day after, you should be connected the same way. The mind will fluctuate; it doesn\u2019t matter. Leave the mind, but the connection should remain. Then, elevation is guaranteed. You\u2019ve to reach that level. There\u2019s no other way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Transcribed by Shamim Gany<\/em>
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