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Exploring the Purpose of Creation<\/h4>\n\n\n\n
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Question: I am studying the Bhagavad Gita class in a class, and I want to share and spread what I am learning from the Gita. I got connected to the Gita because I want to be liberated from the cycle of birth and death. But not everybody is in that mode of getting liberated. If someone is totally ignorant, that\u2019s fine, and the same for someone who understands it totally. But I think people like me who are in the middle, struggle. So the first question is that if liberation is the goal for everybody, then why did God even bring us here in the first place? Why did God bring us here and ask us to return? I don\u2019t know how to explain this\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji:<\/a> Very simple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Consider Brahma – he is much later than Vishnu, that\u2019s why Brahma is sitting in the navel (Mohanji gestures to the navel, referring to Brahma originating from reclining Maha Vishnu\u2019s navel, as depicted in traditional Indian art). I am talking about the larger picture: Brahma is a consciousness which is oriented to creation. Don\u2019t look at Brahma as having four heads and all that, but as oriented to creation. Everything is consciousness; everything is frequency. Brahma\u2019s frequency is oriented to creation. Vishnu\u2019s frequency is oriented to maintenance. Shiva\u2019s frequency is oriented to dissolution – not destruction, destruction is different.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Brahma came much later than the frequency of maintenance. This is because maintenance was happening beyond (before) Time \u2013 meaning that even before the whole universe happened, there was consciousness. Vishnu is consciousness. An aspect of dissolution is Shiva, which is Consciousness. So they’re both the same. Brahma is relatively younger or coming much later. That is why we don’t really worship Brahma because the Source is not Brahma; Brahma is using the Source. Now, at the second level, there are numerous lokas, which simply means numerous frequencies. You are also multiple frequencies but there’s a predominant frequency with which people connect to you. Yet you’re not just one frequency. We are all multiple frequencies; our potential is multiple dimensions. When any new land gets formed, or another earth\/another world like ours is taking shape, then there arise many options and opportunities for many beings to come and practice their skills. We call them Prajapatis. Prajapatis are sons of Brahma. Their skills are like those of sculptors, painters, artists. They get a canvas to practice their skills. That is why we see a variety of numerous creations. Then again, creation is also based on frequency.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the frequency of Treta Yuga, during Sri Rama\u2019s time, the lifespan was 10000 years and the people were very huge and big. Ravan cut off his ten heads and offered them to Shiva in the homa, right? He was sacrificing ten aspects of his perfection: he was a perfect raja (king), he was a great ruler, he was perfect in music, he could dance very well, he could fight very well etc. So he started delivering to Shiva, all the ten major aspects which made him. And that\u2019s when Shiva came. During Krishna\u2019s time, the life span was 1000 years. Krishna only lived for 125 years, which is like the 32 years of our time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So as per the time and as per the frequency, creation happened. And who created it? These Prajapatis. They came, but they never ever created anything which would contradict the nature and the frequency of the plane i.e. Sanatana Dharma. Every creation was applicable and adaptable to the fabric of the location. So if you had a lot of grass, then to eat that there were many deer and other herbivorous animals, and to control their population there were carnivorous animals. Carnivorous animals do not eat every day, so the balance is always maintained (except that of human beings, and that too in Kali Yuga until when dharma was prevailing). When Krishna left the body, most of the celestial beings also left because there was no point in staying back. Agastya and people like him didn\u2019t go away \u2013 they’re available if you connect. They’re available on call, but not available like they had been before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And so, the connection with the subtle has become distant, because we are unconscious. We are only conscious about our life, personality, and death. But during Krishna\u2019s time, for example, Kunti Mata could invite the grace of Surya and deliver a child –so, that connection to the subtle had always been there. All that stopped when Kali Yuga started. So we must know how the creations took place. And when it’s Kali Yuga here, the people here are unconscious. Krita Yuga (the Golden Age) is fully conscious; Kali Yuga is fully unconscious. And now, more than creation, it\u2019s destruction. We have lost many species already, and we are losing species and spaces now, with global warming. All these things are destructive because Kali Yuga\u2019s nature is destruction. But Kali Yuga\u2019s advantage is that there are also people who are fully conscious now as well as those who are completely unconscious, and there are those somewhere in the middle as well. Eight billion people have never existed on the earth in any Yugas except now. Out of the eight billion, 80% are unconscious: they’re eating, breathing, sleeping, and dying. They don’t have any plan for higher consciousness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So you’re (addressed to the questioner) not catering to them. Now, the Bhagavad Gita was delivered as He (Lord Krishna) delivered, because it is the sum of all Upanishads. If you squeeze the juice of all the original 108 major Upanishads, it will be the Bhagavad Gita. So that one text is enough for pretty much understanding our constitution, or what we are here for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Prajapatis had no interest in anything except creating and then some of them migrated to other locations \u2013 they had the power to go and create another place like this. They keep on doing their work but they never have any agenda. And this whole thing is the same as the system of prana-pratishta: make an idol 3 \u00bd ft tall, or something which is sufficient to contain energy, then you invoke the energy, so it becomes lord Ganesha or Sai Baba or others. Just like that, the soul was put into our body. And the operating platform of all the animals and the birds is instinct; their basic instinct is survival since they\u2019ve got to survive. One part of this is sexuality \u2013they become active at a particular time to produce the next generation. So that survival instinct was the only software put into those bodies. For human bodies, it was imagination and intelligence. So survival became much more expanded, with intelligence and imagination. And all the creations in the world are based on that. So we have a similarity pretty much to the original creators. But we do not exactly have their power – we can’t create a body and things like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Recently I was in the Netherlands with some scientists. And there is a particular stream of science happening now where they have segregated the energy part which is working on the physical level, which is quite good. And they asked my opinion, so I explained this story. And they said that makes a lot of sense then on how the cell is activated. So it’s more intention-based – what you want to see. It’s not like you sit down and create. They had the power to create, intention-based. So this is approximately the thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Does this clarify your question?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Not Everyone is on the Path to Liberation<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: So not everybody is on the path to liberation?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: Not everybody will be because many people do not have the plan to go beyond Kali Yuga. They will only take birth in this Kali Yuga, and then they all hibernate. They don’t plan to go liberation. I\u2019ve explicitly said that I am catering to two types of people: one type has lived in other yugas, from Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, and other yugas. They also have taken birth now; for them, my teaching makes sense. Another type of people comes from other lokas. So, they have either come from other lokas, or from other yugas. They also have an interest in going back; they know very well that they got stuck in the karmic thing, so they also want to go back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I said I am not talking to Kali Yuga people because I don\u2019t have anything to say to them. What will I tell them? Eat food, drink, sleep, procrastinate \u2013 this is what I can tell them. If I tell them about the Bhagavad Gita, they will think I am a fool. I was invited to a group discussion with some professionals. At that time, some kind of new kind of taxation system had come into place, and they were all discussing that and I also participated. After an hour and a half, they say, \u201cLook, hey, Mohanji is here. We are supposed to talk about spirituality, guys!\u201d Then I said, \u201cNo, this is more interesting. Spirituality is boring.\u201d Because that group had no interest in any other thing \u2013 they were so immersed in taxation. So I also got involved in it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We don\u2019t have to speak about what we are, who we are, or what we know, at every place \u2013 that’s not important. Only when receptive people come and have a genuine question, that’s the only time we need to speak. Because a genuine question is not for the sake of asking a question: \u201cMohanji is sitting bored, so let me ask a question\u201d, not like that.  But for the question \u201cI need to know this, so then I can have clarity in life\u201d, you must answer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if you have knowledge of the Bhagavad Gita, you tell the people who want<\/em> to know. Another thing which you can do, (this is the blessing of time), is to have capsules and send them home. You know you have this problem – here’s a solution, something like that – so that people read it. And sometimes they may consider this as a good option.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Relevance of Spiritual Teachings<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: I think when they come to the class, they think that Bhagavad Gita will help them get over their day-to-day suffering. Bhagavad Gita starts with moksha tattva, atma, and who are you, and everything.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: Moksha is our main thing, you know. Moksha is the fundamental awareness that we are born with. When we become aware of the soul, the soul is already in moksha. The soul doesn’t need moksha. Who then needs moksha? Those who are bound. When we are soul, we are not bound, right? Then we don\u2019t need moksha, we ARE moksha, isn\u2019t it? When you are Love, you don’t need love, because you are Love. So that is why Krishna positioned it that way. Krishna\u2026 what an avatar, you know!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Understanding Moksha (Liberation)<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: People start asking why we always have to think about going to moksha. Why have we even come on this earth?\u00a0 Why did shrishti happen? Bhagavan created us on this earth, and is now asking us to come back to Him?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: It’s not like that. Nobody forced you to come. There have been creations, and creations created creations – like we are creating our own next life, how we are creating as we are now. It’s a pattern-bound existence. A pattern means your desires, inclinations, tendencies, fears, and phobias, all put together. Patterns take you through lives: different bodies, but the same pattern. Now that is proved through regression therapy etc; they tell you that you lived the same life in another body. What\u2019s the big deal? A different time, that’s all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Role of Patterns in Our Lives<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

So, patterns are running the show. Why did we come? Because our patterns are really compelling. The soul doesn’t want to come. The soul is like electricity. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a light bulb or a washing machine, the soul will just operate like how electricity operates. You put it through the television, it shows a picture, if you put it in the washing machine, it washes your clothes. But electricity is not affected by what you use it for. So the soul is completely neutral like that. But what is compelling or what is pulling it back is the desire for existence. That is why when the soul leaves the body, it takes your impressions from the basic koshas, or at least from the causal layer. Then, like a cloth you wear, that gets put back into the next body, and then it manifests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Connection with the Guru<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

God has nothing to do with this, first of all. We need God to reach that Consciousness. Do you know what the best thing you can ask a guru?\u00a0 \u201cLet me also experience what you experienced\u201d <\/strong>– that’s all, nothing else. A guru is not like a plumber or an electrician: \u201cCan you solve this thing for me? Can you get me parking?\u201d That\u2019s not a guru’s job, you know. A guru is not a plumber or electrician. If you have a sewage problem, then you call the plumber, otherwise you don\u2019t need him. The guru\u2019s job is to be Himself, nothing else. So you know that the Consciousness level he is operating from is possible. And how do you know? You\u2019ve got to watch him for a long period of time. Not the sounds he produces! Words have no meaning here. You watch him. You will know this automatically: \u201cThis man is operating from this frequency\u201d. You can see that. I believe that all of us have that capacity. Nobody can be fooled. So, then you say: \u201cThat’s where I want to reach\u201d.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Afterwards, what is enough is what Hanumanji <\/a>did: parking your mind at the feet of the Master. Hanumanji did not come to Ram knowing fully well that He was an avatar. When Hanumanji first met Ram, Ram was a stranger in the forest and Hanumanji was a tribal. Hanumanji was van-nar, not vaanar. Van means forest, and nar means human: forest-human. Not vaanar, vaanar is a name which has come later (vaanar means a monkey). So he saw Ram, and he thought \u201cOh, strangers in the forest\u201d. And he got curious and he connected. And then later on, when he realized this was a walking avatar, his attitude changed. But he took time. He was thinking: \u201cOk, this man is a good archer, a good warrior. He can possibly help my friend Sugreeva because he has no land and job, nothing\u201d. So Hanumanji thought ok I will let him help. But later what happened was he realized that Ram is a very powerful man. He is an avatar. All he did was say to Ram: \u201cI would prefer to be your servant so I can serve you, knowing fully well who you are. But soul-wise, you and I are one.\u201d So that awareness was there for him. If that awareness is there, then you don\u2019t need to connect. The maximum is achieved through connection, not through practice. Practices are for discipline. If you have a regular practice going, you have discipline. But if the connection is clear, you attain the highest. That is Hanumanji\u2019s story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Why We Came to Earth<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Ok, so why we came here at all is because our pattern pushed us towards birth. Why God is not interfering is because God has got nothing to do with it. It is not God who put the pattern! Our own desire pattern, our inclinations, our tendencies, our fears, our phobias, our lack of acceptance, all put together became us. And that’s exactly what we are giving to the world outside; that’s what we are doing. What we are, we are showing to the world outside. And God will say: \u201cOk, that\u2019s fine\u201d, just like our soul will. The soul is not interfering in what you do or what you think, isn\u2019t it? The soul is not even thinking whether you’re doing a good thing, a bad thing, or an ugly thing \u2013 the soul is not worried. You think anything you want \u2013 that\u2019s you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That\u2019s why I always say there is no good or bad – it is how you are, and when your priority changes to something higher like moksha. Moksha is also very very theoretical as people talk. Moksha is a state which you can be in, while you are living. How will it happen? Automatically, when the detachment level is strong. Not that you run away from things, there is no escapism, no suppression, and no denial. You don\u2019t need some things. For example, I eat a maximum of two times a day. I don’t need a lot of food. It’s not because I created it that way but because it wasn\u2019t necessary. Likewise, with alcohol. Even if somebody brings me expensive alcohol, I wouldn\u2019t feel anything. Because things drop off. At one time feeling for what you wanted might be completely different at another time because it dropped off \u2013 that kind of situation comes to you. Then you are liberated from all that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So, liberation is a gradual process. So many things will go away. Even people will go away – some people may not understand you. If somebody doesn\u2019t understand you, why should they be with you? So, sometimes in your spiritual evolution, you can see people dropping off, \u201cHey, this man has become stupid now, he was ok before. Now he is talking about something which I don’t understand.\u201d That happens, right? So, everything is evolving.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And moksha is our basic nature. We are born liberated. But because we are into so many things, we don\u2019t realize it. And once you start realizing it, then it\u2019s like rocket speed \u2013 there is no stopping. Nobody can stop you. And here, there\u2019s no time, there\u2019s no gender, there\u2019s no age \u2013 nothing.\u00a0 Anything can happen any time. Just one thought.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: You have answered many things as well, which I didn\u2019t ask.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: You can explain this to children, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00a0Questioner: They are not children. They are my age (adults).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: But you can make them understand, right? That this is not God-created. There is a wrong idea that God created individually: one man like this. It\u2019s not like that. Based on our vasanas, we<\/em> created our forms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Facing Death and Future Mapping Process<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: I think moksha is our true nature or else why is everything pointing to moksha?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: Yes, moksha is our true nature and birthright. Why? Because your soul is already liberated. Your atma is already liberated. It is feeling bound only because of personality. When the time of (normal) death comes, the sudden feeling is that you feel very light. The soul is like: \u201cMy god, what am I going to do, this heavy body was there for some time; it\u2019s gone now\u201d. The people who have NDEs (near-death experiences) will tell you this. Suddenly you feel light, bright light – that\u2019s no problem, good. And then, you have to take another body again.. my god!!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We have a process of future mapping. I created the Future Mapping Process to prove this. Future mapping is penetration into the next life. They say there’s nothing like that in the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Questioner: What is that process then?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mohanji: You take through your death to the next life \u2013 not progression. It’s not progression therapy; it’s going into your pattern. Pattern is like a mesh to work with, so many things to work on. It is going into your pattern then you go through the death and then to the next life. See, people who have suicidal tendencies, glorify their death, they say it\u2019s amazing. But we have to take them through, so it has to go zigzag-zigzag. Now they are planning that – a few people are already doing that. So the idea is to make you realize that this is exactly how you have lived life in the past and this is exactly what you’re trying to live in the future. Then your priorities change. If you don\u2019t feel it, you will not change\u2026 \u201cIt\u2019s all theory\u201d. But Krishna never told any theories; He told the truth. So I made this for that – zigzag-zigzag. You have to take them back and forth, back and forth slowly, slowly, slowly. And then take them through death. Many people cannot face death; they live as if they will never die. Many people don\u2019t take time because their personality is so strong. And death\u2026 \u201dOh my god then what will I do with my property, bank balance\u2026\u201d. So all the things start working.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Another thing I experienced was one time when I was called by some doctors \u2013 when someone was in a critical condition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So the doctors said, \u201cYou can enter; nobody else should enter\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The relatives were all outside. When I entered, the soul was coming out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So I communicated and said, \u201cSee your children and husband and everybody is there.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cAh, that\u2019s done.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

How matter-of-fact that person becomes when the job is done, you know!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cOh, that\u2019s done, that’s my past life\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The second it comes out, it’s a completely different person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cOh, that\u2019s over. Done with it. Then why are you stopping me?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI am not stopping you, I am asking you\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

See, how all these me-mine-everything ends in one second! Out of the body \u2013 \u201cOk who is this? I am done with this, this is over; this drama is over\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Curtains down.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Embracing Reality and Letting Go<\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Reality is sometimes good to know, then your whole pressure to perform your personality will reduce. Otherwise, we are struggling to be this personality. Is everybody accepting me? Are they looking at me favourably? All this is nonsense. Not that we become indifferent in life. You have to love everybody and accept everybody. But we need to know that we are not any of this. But while somebody loves you, be love. When somebody hates you, you walk away because they don\u2019t need you, so that you can keep your dignity. When somebody loves you, you have to be<\/em> love. Not that you love back – just be<\/em> love so it gets reciprocated in the same way, at the same level. When somebody hates you and says I don\u2019t want to see you, walk away.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I always say if people go away from me, I sometimes become relieved because I don’t have the responsibility. But when they stay with me, I am a person who takes that responsibility very seriously. So I don’t compromise on this – I become extra responsible. Devi sometimes used to tell me that you’re too serious. I said when somebody trusts in me, I give my life. When somebody doesn’t trust in me, then it’s okay – no responsibility. But that happens automatically when you know that okay, this person is climbing up and I need to support them. But if the person said they were not interested, then it’s fine, my job is done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think you can give these answers to them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Transcribed by: Anusha Yennaram<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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