Exclusive interview with Mohanji
Newsletter Team USA
April 19, 2024
“So one of the biggest gifts you can give in this time is stability to the people.”
Interviewer: How are you today?
Mohanji: Good, thank you.
Interviewer: How do you like the progress at MCB USA (Mohanji Center of Benevolence USA)?
Mohanji: It’s beautiful! It’s not even one year, but we had two programs here already and a third one coming up this year. So it’s quite good.
Interviewer: Is it aligned with your vision?
Mohanji: It is. I have a global vision and all the MCBs are aligned to it. The USA is one of them.
Interviewer: What do you envision in terms of expansion?
Mohanji: MCB helps a lot of people to stabilize themselves. I would like it if these MCBs give stability to the people, that’s exactly what the world needs today. Stability. And that’s what’s missing today. People are running and chasing but often confused, not knowing what to do and where to go. So the MCB should become a platform for people to come, practice, and stabilize. Once they’re stable, their family is stable. Once the family is stable, the society is stable. So one of the biggest gifts you can give in this time is stability to the people.
Interviewer: So in terms of expansion, do you envision more MCBs or more things happening at each MCB? Mohanji: At this point in time it’s not more MCBs, it’s more people using one MCB. Probably in the future there will be many, because it will all depend on the demand. I believe that there will be great demand for such spaces where there are clear non-religious definitions and guidance for people, but at the same time connecting to oneself. Only when somebody connects to themselves, they can be stable. If they connect to a matter or an ideology or a book or an idol outside, there’s no guarantee they can be stable. But if they start accepting themselves, stabilizing in themselves, then only a person becomes stable. Otherwise they will always be needing something else. If you need anything else outside of you, then it’s always a gap in connection. It’s important that they start feeling themselves, understanding themselves, connecting with themselves, and searching inside, not outside. So for all that, this MCB will become a platform, it’ll help. If it helps and it starts working, probably many MCBs will sprout in the world.
Interviewer: Do you think people should physically come here and experience the MCB? Mohanji: A life is all about experiences. When you see a picture, you have a feeling. But when you reach that space, you have that experience. So I would recommend coming here, feeling the space, experiencing the energy here, and then go home. Feel what you’ve collected, stabilize it, and come back often whenever you can so that you have an integral link with this space. The space is fully energized and the space is offering a lot of stability by itself.
“Shirdi Baba stands tall as somebody who’s beyond all religions”
Interviewer: What is the significance of Shirdi Sai Baba in all the MCBs?
Mohanji: Shirdi Sai Baba represents the master of current times. He was living as a Muslim fakeer, but he was not bound by any religion. So today, in this whole confused state of religious nature or confusion connected to religions, Shirdi Baba stands tall as somebody who’s beyond all religions. He was loved by everybody, accepted by everybody, respected by everybody as a unique, powerful, and stable master. In today’s time, we need to understand the difference between religion and spirituality. Shirdi Baba is a beacon of light, a towering personality in the path of spirituality where your connection is with yourself while religion is a road map, so you can follow a religion or not follow a religion still you are yourself. So here you’re
exploring yourself, understanding yourself, respecting yourself, accepting yourself, and connecting to yourself in a stable way.
Shirdi Sai Baba was living about 100 years ago but is still alive in this world actively. He’s tangible, so there is a message to give to this world.
You can live in this world, but have nothing to do with the world.
You can be part of the world, but beyond the world.
You can exist in a body, but not bound by the body.
You are unbound by the time. life is a flow and life is unbound by time.
Birth is bound by time, death is bound by time but life is not bound by time. Life is unbound means life goes through lifetimes. Shirdi Sai Baba is a living expression of this concept or this principle that he is still alive. He’s still active. He’s available. Tangible. Not as a statue or an idol. He is available to people who connect with him. In his life he said, my bones will speak from my tomb, and he means it and he does it. He also said, you look at me, I look at you, that means you connect to me, I connect to you. So this is happening even many years after his physical exit. He left in 1918. So more than 100 years have passed. But look at the way he’s spreading all over the world. So that’s a clear sign how a true master exists beyond time, beyond any kind of definitions. That’s a true master.
So one thing, it’s a guidance to people that you can be this, you can be that also. The second thing is that there’s a hope to people that there is somebody whom you can talk to, pray to, connect to, and get a result. So a true master is beyond time and the true mastery is within everybody.
All of us can be true masters when you are not bound by your mind or you are not bound by your personality. Shirdi Baba had a personality to project to the world, but he was beyond a personality, beyond a body, beyond time. And that’s exactly what we’re conveying to the world. Look here, this is your possibility. Tangible possibility. Not a theory. It’s not something of a concept. It’s experience-able. You can experience it and only when you experience it, it becomes yours. Otherwise, information is just a theory, just some words. Only when you start feeling it, digest it, it becomes knowledge. Only when you experience the knowledge, does it become wisdom. So, here there is a master who’s available within us. Who walks, talks, does things even hundred years after he exited. That’s the message which we give to the world.
“We need purification consistently”
Interviewer: There were three Homas (fire ceremonies) this time, and you have now asked Homa to be performed every day in the morning. What is the significance of the Homas?
Mohanji: Homa was to reduce the karmic weight from the lineage. That Homa was for purification from the things which you have collected from past lives or ancestors, or from this life. We have collected a lot of things. We all have various interactions in society. We have a lineage from our father’s side and mother’s side. We have our own pending desires, unfulfilled desires, inclinations, and tendencies. And all those things come together as a requirement in each existence, and while we live it everyday through everyday existence, there will be a lot of residues, residual karma.
So when we do Homas we are sacrificing a lot of it consciously into the fire using a coconut or some medium and that’s what we did in the first Homa. We sacrificed or we offered all the residual things, which were preventing us or blocking us from progress, to the fire and that fire consumed it. And how it becomes effective depends on your power of intention. If your intention is clear and pure and you’re offering it into the coconut with the
full intention that all the residual karma from the past lives, from the lineage, and from the present life is going into this coconut and that’s offered to the fire, the fire consumes it. You actually feel lightness because it really goes from you.
The second Homa we performed was reinforcement and well being. All the mantras and all the things we chanted was to reinforce your well being in this life. All the other Homas which we are doing are for purification, general purification. So we are offering our impurities to the fire which we are collecting, just like we take a daily bath. We are offering to the fire all the impurities of karmic nature we collect each day, which is positive and negative. We offer it to the fire so we remain empty and pure. This is continuing even now, everyday they are doing it so like we take bath every day.
We need purification consistently.
Interviewer: Does this also purify the land?
Mohanji: It does. Energy passes everywhere. We are using this land for purification and that reflects in everything such as the birds, the animals, the trees, and the people. Everybody benefits. Energy spreads everywhere so we create that environment and energy in such a way so that it sustains other things. Also, it enhances your presence and makes life more effective. The advantage of all these rituals and these activities, and this place is that it tunes you up or tones you up, so that your life is more effective. See, an effective life is everybody’s right, but because of the burden of the karmic weight, many times life is not effective. Days are not effective. Actions are not effective. Expressions are not effective. So when you
cleanse things, when you are purified, when all the weight is removed, you become very effective. So that fulfillment factor is more pronounced.
Our life becomes complete only when we have fulfillment. So when we have a pure existence, purity in thoughts, words, and actions and all the activities that we do, brings purity. Automatically, our life becomes effective and effectiveness gives fulfillment and contentment. Then life is well used or well experienced.
“An effective life is everybody’s right”
Interviewer: When people leave from here after the program feeling energized and when there is a certain level of activity and purity experienced, once they go back into the humdrum of Life, how can they sustain it?
Mohanji: One, come back here as soon as possible. Two, always help the helpless. Do something for the poor, downtrodden, or the underprivileged all the time. Not just people but any beings. Feed the hungry, feed the poor. Take care of beings of the water, beings of the air, beings of the earth. Do all those things so that your purity level is always increasing. When you do selfless service, your level of purity rises. When you do selfish activities like eating, drinking, sleeping only for your sake, the contamination stays which means residual contamination. Every interaction is an energy exchange. You talk to anybody, you interact with anybody, even if you have eye contact, there’s an energy exchange. Not all the energy exchanges are for good
purposes. Sometimes the energy you receive is jealousy. Sometimes it’s anger, sometimes it’s hatred. Everybody does not look at you with love, so we are like a sponge absorbing numerous types of energies as we live our life. So when you do works of purity, acts of purity, good work, pure work, then automatically there will be a reduction in this accumulation and that will help you for stabilization. So do lots of acts of charity. It doesn’t mean just giving money; it’s giving time, giving your skills. Sharing whatever you have in abundance is charity, and that you do without expectation. You should not even look at the other person. All you do is that if you know you have time, or if you have something to share, or if you know what to do, do it indiscriminately so that your purity level will be high and also it will help your connection with the higher. Because when you are pure, you’re
automatically feeling the higher. When you become rich inside, you are rich outside. When you sow love, you reap love. When you sow compassion and kindness, you reap that. So it depends on how much you are able to share unconditionally that much you receive unconditionally. If you share yourself with the world, the world gives itself to you.
Interviewer: Another powerful form of energy that we’ve seen is Shaktipat. Could you please explain a little bit more and how can we use that energy?
Mohanji: I use this channelization of energy which is called Shaktipat for alignment. Alignment means body, mind, intellect, ego, and spirit should be aligned so that you have more effectiveness in life. I don’t do Shaktipat for activation. Usually Shaktipat is activating the Shakti energy in you- the kundalini Shakti. I don’t do that. I align you so that kundalini can get activated at the right time. So what you can do with the alignment is that again, you can have effective selfless service. So that will enhance the energy and the alignment which I have given you. So whatever purification I have done, it can be enhanced or maintained by further acts of charity or selflessness. So acts of selflessness go a long way in maintaining our
purity, stabilizing our life, and also ensuring richness inside.
Interviewer: When you mentioned kundalini energy, is that something that happens naturally, or somebody has to work for it?
Mohanji: No, it happens naturally.
“Acts of selflessness go a long way in maintaining our
purity, stabilizing our life, and also ensuring richness inside”
Interviewer: Could you please explain consecration?
Mohanji: I can talk about the Pranpratishta here. That is inducing the energy or the life to the idol here. That’s what we’re doing tomorrow and day after. We are consecrating the idols and that’s inducing the energy or the power or the life to the idols, so that they are able to transmit that to the devotees who are coming here to pray. So it’s the enhancement of an object to that of a deity, that’s consecration.
Interviewer: So the necklaces and pendants that people bring for consecration?
Mohanji: Yeah, that you should ask the people who make it. I don’t know.
Interviewer: Is that transfer of energy?
Mohanji: No, I’m purifying it and I’m blessing it. That’s a blessing. I bless them that let it be helpful for them to be aligned, or to be effective, or let this be for a good cause. That’s the intention I put when I do that, that’s just a blessing.
Interviewer: There’s an Empowerment program 5 that will be happening here and will be happening in Serbia as well. Could you please explain how that creates a path to becoming a master?
Mohanji: Yes, it’s creating masters. Empowered program is a series to know yourself; it’s like a manual of life. So, the Empowered program makes you understand who you are. What are you made up of? What is the purpose of existence? All those clarities are given plus the methods are given to actualize yourself. First is to understand the energy inside you. Then to understand the energy extension outside of you. Then finally this energy and that energy is the same. You know, I am that. Everything is the same and then after a while, you are one with the whole energy. Means you are fully experiencing the whole consciousness. So the path is opened for that through Empowered. Empowered is one set of programs where there are theories and the practical side. The practical side is one through the idea of self acceptance. The whole Empowered series is about self acceptance, raised awareness, stabilization, and evolution or dissolution. So the whole process is rolled out through this Empowered series.
Interviewer: So one must go through Empowered series 1, 2, 3, and 4?
Mohanji: Yeah, because if you don’t understand what you’re doing, it will not be effective. So you have to understand and stabilize, then move further. If the foundation is not strong, you can’t build on top.